  {"id":207987,"date":"2024-12-17T19:56:37","date_gmt":"2024-12-18T05:56:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/?p=207987"},"modified":"2024-12-18T09:08:09","modified_gmt":"2024-12-18T19:08:09","slug":"uh-hawaiis-future-lassners-aloha-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/2024\/12\/17\/uh-hawaiis-future-lassners-aloha-interview\/","title":{"rendered":"<abbr>UH<\/abbr> &#8216;most important institution for Hawai\u02bbi\u2019s future&#8217;: David Lassner\u2019s aloha interview"},"content":{"rendered":"<span class=\"span-reading-time rt-reading-time\" style=\"display: block;\"><span class=\"rt-label rt-prefix\">Reading time: <\/span> <span class=\"rt-time\"> 9<\/span> <span class=\"rt-label rt-postfix\">minutes<\/span><\/span><p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-retro-2-2.jpg\" alt=\"Smiling David Lassner\" width=\"676\" height=\"381\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-208204\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-retro-2-2.jpg 676w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-retro-2-2-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-retro-2-2-130x73.jpg 130w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 676px) 100vw, 676px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Among the University of <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>\u2019s significant achievements under the leadership of President David Lassner are rebuilding enrollment, record graduation rates and student outcomes, record extramural funding, high-performance in philanthropy, and a new real estate program, all while <abbr title=\"University of Hawaii\">UH<\/abbr> campuses are consistently rated among the most affordable in the country.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/system-bachman-reno-1-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"President Lassner in his office\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-199448\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/system-bachman-reno-1-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/system-bachman-reno-1-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/system-bachman-reno-1.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;President Lassner\u2019s tireless work has strengthened the University of <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> academically, culturally, and financially,&rdquo; the <abbr>UH<\/abbr> Board of Regents wrote in a resolution presented to the 15th <abbr>UH<\/abbr> president, who will retire at the end of 2024.<\/p>\n<p>Lassner navigated <abbr>UH<\/abbr>\u2019s 10 campuses through the COVID-19 pandemic and controversy over Maunakea, while strengthening the university\u2019s commitment as an Indigenous-serving and -inspired institution. As one of the lowest paid university presidents in the country, Lassner also brought together the separate roles as the head of both the 10-campus statewide system and <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>\u2019s flagship research university, <abbr>UH<\/abbr> M\u0101noa. Last year, Lassner <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/2023\/11\/02\/lassner-pledges-1m-for-uh-for-hawaii\/\">personally pledged $1 million<\/a> to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.uhfoundation.org\/4uh4hi\">For <abbr>UH<\/abbr> \u2022 For <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span><\/a> $1 billion fundraising campaign he helped launch.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/2024\/12\/17\/hawaiian-word-of-the-week-pomaikai-lassner\/\">President Lassner gives the final <span aria-label=\"Olelo\">&#699;&#332;lelo<\/span> of the Week for 2024<\/a>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Before beginning service as president in 2013, David Lassner served <abbr>UH<\/abbr> for more than three and a half decades in roles that ranged from part-time contractor and entry-level computer specialist to <abbr>UH<\/abbr>\u2019s first vice president for information technology and chief information officer. He was <abbr>UH<\/abbr>\u2019s most prolific principal investigator and an active leader in local, national and international professional organizations as well as a student of hula and an avid hiker.<\/p>\n<p>Lassner sat down for a wide-ranging interview with <em><abbr>UH<\/abbr> News<\/em> less than three weeks before his retirement, covering his 47-year <abbr>UH<\/abbr> career. The following has been lightly edited for brevity and clarity.<\/p>\n<h2>How did you manage to keep tuition affordable, yet grow and improve the enterprise?<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-press-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"Lassner at podium for press conference\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-208097\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-press-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-press-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-press.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Early in my time as president we stopped increasing tuition other than one increase that we dedicated to improving our facilities when the state had not been funding what we needed.  We\u2019ve had to learn a different way of functioning, taking a lot more responsibility for everything we do.<\/p>\n<p>The culture here was that if we wanted to start something new, we would go to the legislature and ask for it. I think we\u2019ve shifted to a culture where we look to ourselves first. As we have learned to manage our resources better, we have been able to address some of our priorities without always expecting someone else to fund us. We have gotten better at shifting resources to support the highest priority needs of our students and the state. When positions are vacated now we look at where we need help the most, which is not necessarily where someone just retired. We\u2019ve also improved our operating efficiency. Our structure with combined and hybrid leadership of M\u0101noa and the <abbr>UH<\/abbr> System function has saved money. A recent report indicated <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> has the 2nd-lowest per capita cost of public higher education administration in the country.<\/p>\n<h2>What accomplishment was most meaningful to you?<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/lassner-commencement-2023-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"President Lassner with a graduate at commencement\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-186344\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/lassner-commencement-2023-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/lassner-commencement-2023-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/11\/lassner-commencement-2023.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>There are so many things our team has accomplished. We&#8217;re stable, we&#8217;re healthy financially, we work together well as a system focused on the needs of <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>. We&#8217;ve changed the game on fundraising. I have come to work at <abbr>UH<\/abbr> M\u0101noa more or less every day for 47 years and the campus has never looked better thanks to Vice President Jan Gouveia and her team. We have a new and positive alumni relations program and we are also now working with our retirees, an amazing group of people who have given their careers to <abbr>UH<\/abbr> and <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>. Vice President Kalbert Young established a new Office of Strategic Development and Partnership under Michael Shibata that has been amazing; the work that we&#8217;re doing with real estate and public-private partnerships will change the face of the university. We have a very stable organization for the first time in a long time. And different parts of the system are working together really well to focus on strategic outcomes that are important to <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>.<\/p>\n<h2>What else stands out?<\/h2>\n<p>We have an amazing stewardship program on Maunakea. The work that we&#8217;ve done to reorganize our program at <abbr>UH<\/abbr> Hilo under Greg Chun, executive director of the Center for Maunakea Stewardship, is remarkable. I can appreciate there are people who do not believe astronomy belongs on <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> summits. But I spent a night on Maunakea in October and met some of our stewards and rangers. I got to Lake Waiau for my first time. Maunakea is truly awe inspiring, and I am incredibly proud of our stewardship today.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lei-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"Lassner with two people with lei\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-208098\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lei-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lei-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lei.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>What shaped your leadership philosophy before you took the president job?<\/h2>\n<p>I don&#8217;t have a slogan for my philosophy. I have watched and learned from innumerable leaders as I have worked at <abbr>UH<\/abbr> and engaged with others locally and beyond. What I think many people don\u02bbt appreciate is the importance of learning lessons regarding both what to emulate and what to avoid.<\/p>\n<h2>What was an example of what you thought worked well?<\/h2>\n<p>I thought David McClain really calmed <abbr>UH<\/abbr> after a period of turbulence. I thought <abbr>MRC<\/abbr> Greenwood inspired a lot of people to believe we could do more for <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> after this period of calm following high drama. She really wanted to elevate us to the next level, and a leader has  to speak inspirationally to make that happen.<\/p>\n<h2>How important is <abbr>UH<\/abbr> research to the future of <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>\u2019s economy?<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/uh-manoa-community-hirono-lassner-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"A staff member showing plants to Sentor Hirono and President Lassner.\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-195190\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/uh-manoa-community-hirono-lassner-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/uh-manoa-community-hirono-lassner-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/uh-manoa-community-hirono-lassner.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s huge. <abbr>UH<\/abbr> is the biggest driver of our economy. Yesterday, we had a <abbr>UH<\/abbr> Foundation board meeting, and Pacific Cooperative Studies Unit (<abbr>PCSU<\/abbr>) Director Shaya Honarvar spoke to them. Most of the foundation trustees had never heard of <abbr>PCSU<\/abbr> or the work it does. Shaya talked about the hundreds of <abbr>PCSU<\/abbr> employees and the important work they do to restore and protect our environment. Our extraordinary and growing level of extramural funding&#8212;over $600 million last year and well on our way to $700 million&#8212;creates thousands of good jobs around the islands.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s not just about trying to create Google, Viagra or Gatorade. Those are great outcomes when universities can do that. But our research enterprise represents a massive economic driver&#8212;a $600\u2013$700-million sector that\u2019s comparable to agriculture in <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>Importantly, we\u2019re doing a much better job of focusing on areas strategic for <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>, as laid out in our Âé¶¹´«Ã½. The sectors where we have capacity and a competitive advantage are important, but we also focus on the areas that are critical to <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>. <abbr>UH<\/abbr> research improves the quality of life here every day. When we study Native Hawaiian health, climate change or conservation, we\u2019re making <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> a healthier place and changing the landscape for everyone while creating economic opportunities for the people who work in these sectors. And as we increase our focus on innovation and entrepreneurship, including through the new Walter Dods Jr. RISE Center, we are also developing students and graduates who will create businesses that create jobs.<\/p>\n<h2>What is the significant unfinished business that you have right now?<\/h2>\n<figure id=\"attachment_183580\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-183580\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/foundation-rise-2023-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"People standing\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-183580\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/foundation-rise-2023-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/foundation-rise-2023-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/09\/foundation-rise-2023.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-183580\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lassner at the RISE blessing<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I would love to see more progress on improving campus infrastructure, especially addressing buildings left to decay for decades like Kuykendall Hall and student housing.<\/p>\n<p>On the physical side of campus, I\u2019d like to see the campus town concept at the current College of Education site (corner of University Avenue and Metcalf Street) after they move into the new building. That would change the life of everybody on campus to have somewhere to go afterward where you could walk across the street and have a cup of coffee or beer or browse in a shop. It would create a lot more life for this place.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lion-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"Lassner with a New Year&#039;s lion\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-208099\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lion-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lion-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-lion.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>We have to improve the ability of students to transfer within the university system, especially to start at a community college and move into a four-year degree. We have a lot to do in our partnerships with [the <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> Department of Education] to figure out how to get more local kids who graduate from our public schools to go on for post-secondary education or training&#8230;to understand they need to do something after high school if they&#8217;re going to have a job that lets them live in <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>We have to do a better job collectively at addressing workforce needs. The opportunity to do it as a [university] system is so powerful because if you take an area like nursing, you can go into healthcare with not very much education and then if we can find ways to continue to elevate them professionally&#8212;from [licensed practical nurse] to [registered nurse] to [a bachelor\u02bbs of science in nursing] to masters to nurse practitioner&#8212;if we have the right programs that are oriented to adults, they can do it while they&#8217;re working.<\/p>\n<p>The teacher shortage, it&#8217;s another one that doesn&#8217;t pay as well as nursing, but there&#8217;s still good jobs and we have got to figure out how to get local people into them to serve their communities because they&#8217;ll last longer.<\/p>\n<p>All of the construction companies tell us they can&#8217;t find construction managers. It&#8217;s a really good paying job. We have to think about, &ldquo;How do we create the opportunities for people who are already working, not just the 18 to 20 year olds?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_46480\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-46480\" style=\"width: 260px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/system-lassner-hokulea-260x174.jpg\" alt=\"President David Lassner aboard the Hokulea, photo courtesy of the Polynesian Voyaging Society\" width=\"260\" height=\"174\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-46480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/system-lassner-hokulea-260x174.jpg 260w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/system-lassner-hokulea.jpg 620w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 260px) 100vw, 260px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-46480\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lassner aboard the H&#333;k&#363;le&#699;a, photo courtesy of the Polynesian Voyaging Society<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Our numbers can always get better, our graduation rates, our retention rates, things like that. That&#8217;s sort of a continuous effort. They&#8217;re all a lot better than they were 10 years ago and they could still be better yet.<\/p>\n<p>I think the work that we&#8217;re doing to become Native Hawaiian place of learning&#8212;to help address our kuleana to <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> and Hawaiians&#8212;we&#8217;re certainly farther along than we have ever been. There are lessons we can probably still learn from places like Aotearoa. But this is the only place in the country that has a freestanding School of Indigenous Knowledge at a research university. It&#8217;s the only place in the country that has a <abbr>PhD<\/abbr> program in Indigenous language revitalization.<\/p>\n<h2>From your professional knowledge, what&#8217;s the next big frontier with <abbr>AI<\/abbr>? What do you think the world is going to look like in 10 years?<\/h2>\n<p>I think we will all be using something called &ldquo;<abbr>AI<\/abbr>&rdquo; in our work lives and home lives. I think it will increasingly be like the Internet, which many people are using all the time without really thinking about it as the Internet. It will permeate what we are doing in education, commerce and civic engagement.<\/p>\n<h2>Do you think that will make society more factionalized or isolated?<\/h2>\n<p>I don\u2019t think <abbr>AI<\/abbr> will inherently have that impact, but it\u2019s going to be increasingly difficult for people who don\u2019t have access to networks and technology to fully engage. That\u2019s why the work that Vice President Garret Yoshimi has taken on to advance broadband connectivity and utilization for the state is so important.<\/p>\n<h2>In your bio, it says you led a major statewide project funded by the U.S. Department of Commerce that interconnected all public schools, libraries and campuses on six islands with fiber optics.<\/h2>\n<p>It was a federal stimulus project during the Obama Administration after the Great Recession funded by the Broadband Technology Opportunity Program. <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span> was the first state in the country to directly connect all these institutions with fiber. That&#8217;s why <abbr>UH<\/abbr> is leading <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>\u2019s major broadband infrastructure development now under the able guidance of our <abbr>VP<\/abbr> for Information Technology and Chief Information Officer Garret Yoshimi. <abbr>UH<\/abbr> took this on at the request of most of the legislature, the governor, and the congressional delegation, who recognized that <abbr>UH<\/abbr> was the best equipped to help lead the state\u2019s broadband efforts.<\/p>\n<h2>What haven&#8217;t we covered in your career that you think is important for people to know?<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-its-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"Lassner at I T S\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-208095\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-its-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-its-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-its.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Until 2013 my career was in technology, going back to before there were no <abbr>PC<\/abbr>s, cell phones or the Internet. It was an incredible time to be engaged in bringing those capabilities to bear on improving higher education and serving <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>When I became president and talked with the board about separation, I told them all I wanted was to be given the title President Emeritus with an office in the <abbr>IT<\/abbr> Center so I can continue to work on <abbr>IT<\/abbr> projects out of the hair of the next president. Right now the three I am still involved with are the Maui High Performance Computing Center, the Pacific Disaster Center, and an <abbr>NSF<\/abbr>-sponsored project that connects research and education in Asia and the Pacific with high-speed fiber optic networks.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-pau-hana-214x300.jpg\" alt=\"Lassner wearing lei\" width=\"214\" height=\"300\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-208094\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-pau-hana-214x300.jpg 214w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-pau-hana-93x130.jpg 93w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-pau-hana.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 214px) 100vw, 214px\" \/><\/p>\n<h2>Earlier this week, you mentioned going on a cruise in retirement&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>I\u2019m looking forward to traveling more\u2014without a laptop! I have a long list of places to which I want to travel, places I haven\u02bbt seen. I signed up with National Geographic to cruise to Antarctica. My bucket list also includes Greece, Turkey, Tuscany, the Dolomites, Iceland, Portugal, Morocco, Machu Picchu, Patagonia, the Galapagos, Rapa Nui, Palau, Bora Bora \u2026 In the U.S., I\u2019ve never been to the Grand Canyon.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d like to spend more time in the Pacific, so I\u2019ll see if I can get myself back into shape and contribute to the Moananui\u0101kea Voyage with <span aria-label=\"Hokulea\">H\u014dk\u016ble&#699;a<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>I also haven\u2019t been hiking seriously since I took this job. I need to get back out and hike more and see if I can still backpack.<\/p>\n<h2>What\u2019s one of your favorite <span aria-label=\"Oahu\">O&#699;ahu<\/span> hikes?<\/h2>\n<p>Poamoho in central <span aria-label=\"Oahu\">O&#699;ahu<\/span>. It\u2019s a beautiful hike through native forest. The summit offers views of both sides of <span aria-label=\"Oahu\">O&#699;ahu<\/span> from the mountains. When I was younger, it was part of a regular backpacking route along the Ko\u02bbolau Summit Trail.<\/p>\n<h2>What h\u0101lau did you dance for?<\/h2>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-hula-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"Lassner dancing hula\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-208096\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-hula-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-hula-130x73.jpg 130w, https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/12\/system-lassner-hula.jpg 676w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve had four different kumu. I started with <span aria-label=\"Hooulu\">Ho&#699;oulu<\/span> Cambra here at <abbr>UH<\/abbr> in 1981. She brought a group of us&#8212;nine dancers and three musicians&#8212;to France to share hula for three weeks in folk festivals throughout the French countryside. This is the group that surprised me by reuniting at one of my recent retirement celebrations.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/2024\/12\/18\/image-of-the-week-aloha-president-lassner\/\">Image of the Week: Aloha President Lassner<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Then I danced for Aunty Maiki [Aiu Lake]. I was in her h\u0101lau when she passed. Then I studied with Ed Kalahiki, one of the kumu she had trained who taught with her. As I got busier at work, I was less engaged. When one of my hula brothers with whom I had started with Aunty Maiki became a kumu&#8212;Ab Valencia&#8212;I went back to hula. All four of my kumu have passed away, but I\u2019m looking to go back to hula after I retire and have more time.<\/p>\n<h2>Why did you give $1 million to the <abbr>UH<\/abbr> Foundation?<\/h2>\n<p>Because I could, and I believe <abbr>UH<\/abbr> is the most important institution in the state for <span aria-label=\"Hawaii\">Âé¶¹´«Ã½<\/span>\u2019s future.<\/p>\n<div class=\"responsive-video-wrap-post\"><figure class=\"wp-block-embed wp-block-embed-youtube is-type-video is-provider-youtube epyt-figure\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\"><div class=\"epyt-video-wrapper\"><iframe  id=\"_ytid_27062\"  width=\"620\" height=\"349\"  data-origwidth=\"620\" data-origheight=\"349\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/e2x02L4sBVE?enablejsapi=1&origin=https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu&rel=0&autoplay=0&cc_load_policy=0&cc_lang_pref=&iv_load_policy=1&loop=0&fs=1&playsinline=0&autohide=2&theme=dark&color=red&controls=1&disablekb=0&\" class=\"__youtube_prefs__  no-lazyload\" title=\"David Lassner: A Legacy of Leadership\"  allow=\"fullscreen; accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen data-no-lazy=\"1\" data-skipgform_ajax_framebjll=\"\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div><\/figure><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Lassner sat down for a wide-ranging interview with <em><abbr>UH<\/abbr> News<\/em> less than three weeks before his retirement, covering his 47-year <abbr>UH<\/abbr> career.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":16,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[29,12],"tags":[729,61,62,63,64,65,394,71,14,9,60,947,59,56,66],"class_list":["post-207987","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-people","category-video","tag-administration-recognition","tag-hawaii-community-college","tag-honolulu-community-college","tag-kapiolani-community-college","tag-kauai-community-college","tag-leeward-community-college","tag-presidents-office","tag-uh-community-colleges","tag-uh-hilo","tag-uh-manoa","tag-maui-college","tag-uh-system","tag-uh-west-oahu","tag-video-2","tag-windward-community-college","entry","has-media"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207987","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/16"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=207987"}],"version-history":[{"count":17,"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207987\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":208216,"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207987\/revisions\/208216"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=207987"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=207987"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.hawaii.edu\/news\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=207987"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}